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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)

THE FOLLOWING HAVE BEEN REGISTERED BY THE S.C.A. COLLEGE OF ARMS, JUNE 2008:


Brandan Wanderer von Arnswold. Name and device. Per bend azure and vert, a bend raguly on the upper edge and in sinister chief a hawk's head erased argent.

Submitted as Brandan der Wanderer von Arnswold, no documentation was provided for the addition of der before Wanderer. We have dropped the article and are registering the name as Brandan_Wanderer von Arnswold in order to match the documentation.


Godfrey of Argyle. Device. Quarterly gules and sable, a quadrant and in chief a pair of shackles conjoined by a chain fesswise Or.


Jost der Luk. Name and device. Quarterly gules and sable all crusilly fitchy Or, a badger rampant argent marked sable.

Submitted as Jost Brandolf von Luck, the submitter requested authenticity for the Holy Roman Empire, 1300-1400, and cared most about sound. Brandolf was documented as an Anglo-Scandinavian form of the Old Norse name Br{o,}ndólfr. We were unable to find any evidence that either Brandolf or a cognate was used in the Holy Roman Empire; lacking such evidence, its use here is not authentic, and so we have dropped the element.

The only documentation provided for von Luck were printouts from the Rootsweb genealogy website. Genealogical websites are only acceptable as documentation if they cite their sources and if it is clear that they have not modernized or standardized the name forms. While the particular pages submitted for von Luck did include citations of sources, we were unable to confirm that the forms had not been standardized. The closest documentable 14th-century byname that the commenters found is der Luk, dated to 1310 in Brechenmacher, Etymologisches Wörterbuch der deutschen Familiennamen, s.n. Lu(c)k(e). We have changed the name to Jost_der Luk to meet his request for authenticity and in order to register the name.


Robert Lyons of Kilkenny. Name change from holding name Robert of Tir Ysgithr.


Shonna Dennyng. Device. Per bend sinister Or and gules, a trefoil knot and a chief vert.


Simon de Rouen. Device. Per bend sinister gules and purpure, in pale three hautboys bendwise within a bordure Or.

Please advise the submitter that the finger holes for the hautboys should be shown to aid in identifying the instrument.


Stephanie of Atenveldt. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Counter-ermine, a pegasus segreant and a bordure dovetailed argent.

Please advise the submitter to draw more and bolder ermine spots. Submitted under the name Valora Tou Agina.


Tangwistel Corista. Name.


THE FOLLOWING SUBMISSIONS HAVE BEEN RETURNED BY THE CoA FOR FURTHER WORK, JUNE 2008:


Ragnarr skinnskrifari í Bládrekafirði. Name.

This is returned for lack of documentation and for construction problems with both bynames.

The byname skinnskrifari was proposed as a constructed byname meaning "skin painter", and the LoI noted that the submitter was trying to construct an Old Norse byname appropriate for a tattooist. There are two problems with the byname. First, no examples were provided of bynames which use skinn as a prototheme; the only compound byname based on skinn that was provided was heljarskinn 'swarthy-skin' in Landnámabók. Second, no evidence was found that 'skin-painter' is a plausible concept in Old Norse. The Viking Answer Lady (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/viktatoo.shtml) notes that there are no clear records of Viking tattoos, so it may be the case that there is no appropriate Old Norse term for a tattooist.

The only documentation provided for the byname í Bládrekafirði was dictionary entries for each of the words blár, dreki, and firði (a declined form of fj{o,}rðr). No evidence was provided that the pattern color + mythical beast + toponymic element is a plausible construction for Scandinavian place names. While we do have examples of Norse place names constructed from personal bynames, past precedent (Kristin Hvithestr, 12/2003, q.v.) indicates that there is no evidence for color + animal bynames in Old Norse, so this model cannot be used for this place name. Lacking evidence for this pattern in Scandinavian place names, í Bládrekafirði is not registerable.


Valora Tou Agina. Name.

This is being returned for administrative reasons. Listed on the LoI as Valora Tou Agina, the name appeared on the forms as Valora Tou Ayiva and the fact that the name was changed in kingdom was not noted on the LoI. We have repeatedly warned this kingdom that changes made in kingdom must be summarized on the LoI, with both the original form and the reason for the change being given. For a further discussion of this issue, please see the Cover Letter for this LoAR. Because of the kingdom's systematic failure to provide this information, we are administratively returning this name and decline to rule on its registerability at this time.

Her device has been registered under the holding name Stephanie of Atenveldt.
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