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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)

The following submissions have been registered by the S.C.A. College of Arms, April 2009:


Beatriz Teixeyra Drago. Name (see RETURNS for device).

The submitter requested authenticity for 16th C Portuguese. While a name with just one given name and one byname would be much more typical for this period, the name is authentic as submitted.

The LoI cited Aryanhwy merch Catmael, "Portuguese Names From Lisbon, 1565"

(http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/portuguese/lisbon1565.html), for the byname Teixeyra, but did not provide printouts of the relevant pages of the website. This website does not have a URL beginning http://heraldry.sca.org/, so it is not listed on Appendix H of the Administrative Handbook. Pelican was able to confirm the information in the article, and so we are able to register this name. However, we remind submissions heralds that failure to provide the required copies of non-Appendix H sources is grounds for return.


Bella Donna Wynter. Name.


Bj{o,}rn mj{o,}ksiglandi. Device. Per chevron azure and argent, a tree blasted and eradicated counterchanged.

Please instruct the submitter to draw the per chevron line steeper, so that the point rises well above the center of the device.


Edeline de Diekirche. Name and device. Per bend sinister Or and azure, a bee sable and a tower argent.

Submitted as Edeline du Diekirch_, there were two problems with the byname. First, French locative bynames based on proper city names following the pattern de 'of' + <place name>. The use of du, which is a contraction of de le 'of the', is only appropriate when the proper name of the city is of the form Le X. Second, no documentation was provided for Diekirch as a period form of the city name. Siren notes that "La Belgique et les Pays-Bas, by Antoine Guillaume Bernard Schayes (E. Devroye, 1859) dates the spelling <Dickirche> to 1266 and <Dieckirque> to 1270. A spelling like <Diekirche> seems to me to also be plausible in the 13th c." We have changed the name to Edeline de Diekirche to correct the grammar and match the available documentation so that we can register it.


Jerome the True. Name.

The LoI cited Talan Gwynek, "Late Sixteenth Century English Given Names" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/eng16/), for the given name Jerome, but did not provide any printouts of the relevant pages of the website. This website does not have a URL beginning http://heraldry.sca.org/, so it is not listed on Appendix H of the Administrative Handbook. Pelican was able to confirm the information in the article, and so we are able to register this name. However, we remind submissions heralds that failure to provide the required copies of non-Appendix H sources is grounds for return.


Karl Wilhelm Singer. Name change from holding name Wilhelm Singer.

The submitter requested authenticity for Germany. All of the elements can be dated to the late 15th C in Baden-Wuerttemberg and Nuernberg. The use of two given names is unusual, but not unheard of in this period.


Seamus mac Roibeird. Name change from holding name James of Windale.

Submitted as Seamus mac Raibert, this was a resubmission, identical to the previous, of a name returned on the July 2008 LoAR, where Laurel ruled:

This is returned for administrative reasons: No summary of the documentation was provided on the LoI, and no name submission can be considered without a proper summary. Because this is an administrative return, we are explicitly not addressing the registerability or authenticity of the name at this time.

This resubmission provided the following documentation:

Documentation for both elements of the name are found in Black's The Surnames of Scotland.

Seamus is the Scots Gaelic version of James, p. 382 s.n. James.

Raibert is the Scots Gaelic form of Robert, p. 695 s.n. Robert.

The construction of the name follows the guidelines seen in "Quick and Easy Gaelic Names Formerly Published as "Quick and Easy Gaelic Bynames," 3rd Edition, Sharon L. Krossa ( http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/#simplepatronymicbyname ), for a simple patronymic byname.

The client desires this particular combination of name elements, as his legal given name is James and his father's given name is Robert.

This is not an adequate summary. As the December 2008 Cover Letter says, in part: “For each different source being cited, the following information should be provided:...A brief quote or comment indicating what the source says about the name element.”

This is especially crucial for books such as Black, which often contain explicitly modern, and unregisterable spellings. Precedent says: “Submitted as Seamus MacEanruig, the surname was documented from Black, The Surnames of Scotland. Gaelic names found in Black, including dated names found in the text, are nearly always modern normalized forms. The exception to this are Gaelic names cited from the Book of Deer and the 1467 MS, which appear in the form found in the original manuscripts. Without a second source showing that these forms are found in period, they are not registerable. [Seamus Mac Enrig, LoAR 09/2006]”

Without a brief quote or comment indicating what Black says about the names Seamus and Raibert, it is impossible for the commenters to determine from the LoI alone whether these Gaelic forms are registerable per this precedent. None of the commenters were able to find any evidence that Raibert is a period Gaelic spelling; only modern examples were found. Lacking such evidence, it is not registerable.

Siren [Herald] provides alternative documentation for a similar name:

Effrick's "Historical Name Generator" (http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/hng16gaelic/) gives the late period form as <Seamus mac Roibeird>.

We have changed the name to Seamus mac Roibeird in order to register it.

The submitter requested authenticity for 12th-14th C Scottish Gaelic. The earliest evidence for Seamus in Scottish Gaelic that we have is from the 15th C. We therefore cannot confirm that this name is authentic for the 12th-14th C.


Titus Babudius Cicero. Name.


Umm Ma'bad Amirah al-Zahra' bint 'Abd al-Aziz al-Azhar ibn Malik ibn Mansur. Name change from holding name Erin of Atenveldt.

Listed on the LoI as Umm Ma'bad Amirah al-Zahra bint_'Abd al-Aziz al-Azhar ibn Malik ibn_Mansur, this form of the name was taken from Laurel's recommendation in the previous return, in July 2008. However, in that recommended form, the underscores were used just to emphasize the difference between the submitted form and the recommended form, and not as part of the name. We have removed them in order to register the name.

Additionally, the previously recommended form contained a small error; in order to use a uniform transcription system throughout the name, the laqab al-Zahra should be transliterated al-Zahra', to match Ma'bad. We have also made this correction.


Willelmus of Brymstone. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Vert, on a mullet of seven points within an orle argent a sinister hand vert.

Submitted under the name Willelmus cum manu.


The following submissions have been returned by the College of Arms for further work, April 2009:


Beatriz Teixeyra Drago. Device. Gules, a flame and on a chief Or three gouts azure.

This is returned because the primary charge is not identifiable. Guesses from commentary included a shallot, an onion, and a bulb of garlic.


Willelmus cum manu. Name.

Conflict with Willelmus Mann (registered September 2008). Prepositions such as cum do not contribute to difference, and the change of a single letter, from Mann to manu, is not a significant difference in appearance. His device was registered under the holding name Willelmus of Brymstone.
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