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Atenveldt Submissions (excerpted from the S.C.A. College of Arms' Letters of Acceptance and Return)
The following submissions were registered by the SCA College of Arms, September 2010:
Asdis Ivarsdottir. Name and device. Argent, in pall three donkeys salient, heads to center, on a chief purpure two roses argent. While we have a ban on inverted creatures, this design does not fall afoul of our ban on inverted creatures, since they are a group of identical charges in a recognized heraldic orientation.
Ashavati of Brymstone. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Argent, a natural panther sejant regardant purpure and in base three keys in fess wards to base azure. Submitted under the name Asha Vati. Atenveldt, Kingdom of. Order name Order of the Spear and badge association. Per pale argent and azure, in pale a sun in his splendor and two spears in saltire Or. Bj{o,}rn Bloodax. Name change from holding name Kenneth Bloodax.
Cecilia Svensdotter. Name (see RETURNS for device). Submitted as Cecilia Svensdóttir, the byname combines Old Swedish Sven with an Old Norse form of the word "daughter." This violates RfS III.a, which requires a byname (or any other name phrase) to be "grammatically correct according to the usage of a single language." We have changed the byname to the thoroughly Old Swedish form in order to register the name; it would also be registerable as a thoroughly Old Norse Sveinsdóttir.
Clarice Alienor Aldinoch. Name. Submitted as Clarice Alienora Aldinoch, the submitter requested authenticity for 12th-14th c. England. In that time, we have no evidence of double given names. However, this can be seen as a given name followed by a matronymic and a descriptive byname. In that form (or indeed with two given names), we'd expect to see the name with both Clarice and Alienor in the vernacular or both in Latinized forms (or with the given name Latinized and the byname in the vernacular). Therefore, we have changed Alienora to the vernacular form in order to meet her request for authenticity.
Cormacc mac Flannacáin. Name. Submitted as Cormacc_Flannacáin, Gaelic requires that patronymic bynames be marked with particles like mac. We have made that change. The submitter requested authenticity for Irish; as corrected, this name is authentic for 9th to 11th century Irish Gaelic.
Heinrich Loescher. Name and device. Per pale sable and gules, a cog-wheel and in base a ball-peen hammer fesswise reversed argent.
Hrefna Gandalfsdottir. Device. Argent, a raven sable and a base wavy azure. The device is clear of the device of Kateline Hicch, Argent, a falcon belled and jessed proper within a bordure engrailed azure. There is a CD for the change of tincture of the primary charge, from brown to black, and a CD for the change of type of secondary charge, from a base wavy to a bordure engrailed. The device is also clear of the device of Eugene Louis Montclare, Argent, atop a mount of six peaks (coupeaux) vert a raven close sable maintaining in its beak a scale gules. There is a CD for the change of tincture of the secondary charge, from vert to azure, and a CD for the change of the type of the secondary charge, from mount of six peaks to base wavy. The device is also clear of the device of Caitlin ni Cáilean de Bri, Argent, a raven close sable, perched upon and supported by a rowan branch leaved and fructed proper. The branch is a co-primary charge. Therefore, there is a CD for the change of number of primary charges and a CD for the addition of a secondary charge.
Isabelle de Calais. Name (see RETURNS for device). This does not conflict with the registered Elisée de Calais. Precedent says that Isabelle and Elizabeth were used interchangeably in 15th century England and thus conflict. Precedent also says that Elisée and Elizabeth conflict, saying "while Elisée is not in a strict ethymological sense a diminutive of Elisabeth, it is often used as one. [Elisabeth de Calais, 05/00, R-Ansteorra]." However, conflict is not transitive. As there is no evidence that Elisée was used as a diminutive of Isabelle, or even used as a diminutive of Elizabeth at a time when Isabelle and Elizabeth were used interchangeably, these names do not conflict.
Isolde Monroe. Name. The Letter of Intent reported difficulty in documenting the desired spelling of the byname. Edelweiss was able to find the spelling Monroe dated to 1617 and 1637 as an English byname.
Jacob Varensgezel van Hoorn. Name and device. Per bend sinister wavy vert and argent, a swordfish naiant bendwise sinister contourny and a frog bendwise counterchanged. Submitted as Jacob Varensgezel Van Hoorn, all the documentation supported a lowercase van. We have made that change to match the documentation. The Letter of Intent asked for help with the occupational byname Varensgezel, meaning "sailor." Noir Licorne was able to find it as an occupational term in grey period Dutch, which is enough to give the submitter the benefit of the doubt and register the byname. The swordfish is a period fish, mentioned in the Etymologiae of Isidore of Seville, 12 6:15 as a 'gladius' in the 7th century. The modern translation reads "The swordfish (gladius) is so called because it has a snout like a sword (cf. gladius, 'sword'); because of this it pierces ships and sinks them.". As a fish native to European waters, it is registerable without a step from period practice.
James Dawysoun. Name change from Eilionora inghean Daibhídh mhic Con Mhara. Her previous name, Eilionora inghean Daibhídh mhic Con Mhara, is retained as an alternate name.
Juan Diego Drago. Device. Per pale sable and gules, a camel statant and in chief three crosses formy Or.
Onora McDade. Name. Her mother's registered name is Damiana McDade; the byname can therefore be registered in this spelling under the grandfather clause.
Rhodri Longshanks. Badge. Counter-ermine, a double tressure surmounted by six rustres Or.
Rhodri Longshanks. Badge change. Argent, on a torteau an ermine spot Or, a double tressure surmounted by six rustres azure. His previous badge, Argent, on a torteau an ermine spot Or, a double tressure surmounted by six crescents with horns outward azure, is released.
Rory Sinclair. Name.
Sancha Galindo de Toledo. Device change. Azure, an owl between in cross four mullets Or and in saltire four roundels argent. Her old device, Azure, an owl contourny Or between in cross four mullets and in saltire four roundels argent, is released.
Wilhelm Morgenstern. Name and device. Per chevron rayonny azure and Or, two estoiles and a demi-sun issuant from base counterchanged. Nice German name! Please instruct the submitter to draw fewer, larger repeats on the rayonny line of division.
The following submissions were returned by the College of Arms for further work, September 2010:
Asha Vati. Name. The submitter presented no evidence that the byname Vati was used in period. Commenters were able to find a 14th century queen of Delhi named Asavati or Ashavati. Therefore, this is registerable as a given name. The name Asha is found as a sixteenth century given name as well. However, that leaves the submitter with no byname, meaning that this name must be returned. Her armory has been registered under the holding name Ashavati of Brymstone.
Bébinn ingen Domnaill. Badge. Per pale azure and argent, a heart per pale argent and vert. This badge is returned for conflict with the device of Bronwen Blackwell, Per pale vert and argent, a seeblatt counterchanged. There is a CD for the change of tincture of the field, but no difference is granted between hearts and seeblätter, by precedent: [Quarterly azure and vert, a heart Or] Conflict with ... A seeblatt Or. There is a CD for the fieldlessness, but by current precedent none for the change in type of the charges. There are period arms that are blazoned both as having hearts and as having seeblatter (see the May 1993 LoAR pg. 17., s.n. Caitlin Davies, for the full discussion). [Rhiannon MacReadie, 05/00, R-An Tir]
Cecilia Svensdotter. Device. Or, a sinister dragon's wing azure issuant from a dexter tierce wavy vert scaly argent. This device is returned for lack of identifiability of the complex line of division of the tierce. Commenters were nearly unanimous in not identifying the wavy line of the tierce until they read the blazon or had it pointed out to them. The low contrast between the mostly vert tierce and the mostly azure wing makes the problem worse, even though the line of division is technically between the mostly vert tierce and the Or field. Section VIII.3 of the Rules for Submissions requires that "Elements must be used in a design so as to preserve their individual identifiability." That is not the case, here.
Ianuk Raventhorne. Alternate name Ian'ka Ivanovna zhena Petrovitsa. This name is a claim to be the wife of Ivan Petrovich, whose name was registered in 2002. While we do not doubt the submitter's word, by long precedent, this name cannot be registered without a signed letter of permission to presume from her husband.
Isabelle de Calais. Device. Lozengy Or and azure, a lily purpure. This device is returned for lack of identifiability of the primary charge. Section VIII.3 of the Rules for Submission requires that "Elements must be used in a design so as to preserve their individual identifiability. While the lily is based off the drawing of a lily in the Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry, the identifying features are both drawn smaller than they are in that resource and nearly all of them lie against the low-contrast azure portions of the field. Commenters were unable to recognize the lily.
Leticia Troischesnes. Badge. Checky gules and argent, a hen couchant contourny Or. This badge is returned for conflict with the device of Anne of Bradford, Azure, chapé, a chicken martletted close to sinister Or. Chapé is considered part of the field, not a charge on the field. Therefore there is only a single CD for the changes to the field. The badge is, however, clear of the device of John Aquila of Eaglesdown, Purpure, an eagle close to sinister Or. There is a CD for the changes to the field and a CD for the change of type of primary charge, since close is a period posture for eagles.
Thordis Andenhojttaler. Name and device. Azure, in pale a mullet of nine points and a Thor's hammer argent. The byname Andenhojttaler is a constructed byname intended to mean "spirit-talker." First, there is no evidence that these words were used in period. Second, there is no evidence that a construction like this would be meaningful, let alone have the intended meaning. Finally, a term like "spirit-talker" would be a claim to supernatural powers, a claim we do not allow under the Rules for Submissions VI.2. Therefore, it cannot be registered. This device is returned for conflict with the Barony of Rivenstar's badge, Azure, a riven star argent. There is a CD for the addition of the hammer, but there is no difference granted between a rivenstar and a mullet of eight points, by precedent: [Per bend sable and checky argent and azure a mullet of eight points argent] Conflict with a badge of the barony of Rivenstar, Azure, a riven star argent.There is one CD for changing the field. There is no difference between a rivenstar and a compass star by previous precedent: ". . .nor is there a CD between a compass star and a riven star" (LoAR of April 2001). [Starkhafn, Barony of, June 2003, R-Caid] Note that the conflict called is between a mullet of eight points and a rivenstar, not just a compass star and a rivenstar, as in the precedent being quoted in the 2003 return. A question was raised about the trademarked insignia of Maersk Shipping, Bleu-celeste, a mullet of seven points argent. As stated in precedent: "While we protect registered trademarks, trademarks are only protected from identical use in the same industry." [Konrad Reinhard, February 2010, A-Trimaris] Since Thordis is not a shipping company, and the armory is not identical, this is not a conflict with the trademark in the United States. However, the logo appears to be registered as heraldry in some European heraldic jurisdictions. If the client wishes to resubmit this or a similar design, justification should be attached showing that Maersk is not important enough to protect. The device is clear of the device of Austin Chadwyck of Normandy, Azure, in pale a pegasus volant and a mullet of four points elongated in pale argent, which is reblazoned elsewhere in this letter. There is a CD for the change of type of half the primary charge group (from pegasus to hammer) and a CD for the arrangement of the primary charge group (from star in chief to star in base). The device is clear of the badge of the Principality of Tir Rígh, Azure, a compass star azure fimbriated argent, which is reblazoned elsewhere in this letter. There is a CD for the change of tincture of the primary charge and a CD for the change of number of primary charges. The device may conflict with the device of Aliena of the High Reaches, Azure, a compass star and a mountain of three peaks issuant from base argent. The question depends on when a charge issuant from the edge of the field is a primary or a secondary charge. This question is being discussed in the pends this month, in the augmentation submission of Victoria of the Vales of Barnsdale. If the charges in Aliena's device are co-primary charges, this is a conflict with a single CD for the change of type of one of the co-primary charges.
The following was pended until the February 2011 College of Arms meeting for further discussion:
Victoria of the Vales of Barnsdale. Augmentation. Or, an insect-winged naked woman passant, wings chased, azure, and as an augmentation on a canton azure in pale a coronet and a sun in his glory issuant from base Or within a bordure argent. This augmentation is pended to discuss three questions that were not adequately addressed during the original commentary period. We note that the submitted augmentation is not the standard augmentation of Atenveldt. A standard augmentation may not be 'slightly modified' and still be considered the standard augmentation. This augmentation must be considered entirely on its own merits. First, the question was asked of whether or not augmentations should be allowed to have minimal contrast with the original device. In all previous cases where a charged canton was used, the canton either had good contrast with the field, the canton was separated from the field with a border or charge throughout which had good contrast with both the field and the augmentation, or the canton was overlying a bordure in such a fashion that the lack of contrast with the field was not an issue in it being noticed (such as the augmentation for Katerina O'Callaghan, on Atenveldt's July 2006 LoI, which can be seen at http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=1124 ). This is the first time a charged canton has been submitted as an augmentation, where the bordure on the canton has poor contrast with the field. Should such augmentations be allowed? Do we find historical practice that matches? Second, there is the question of whether the Or charges on Victoria's augmentation are co-primary or primary and secondary. Since augmentations which are charged cantons must be checked as if they are independent displays of armory, we have to determine how, under our rules, to check this. If the Or charges are considered to be co-primary charges, the augmentation conflicts with the device of Reneé d'Avranches, Azure, two garbs in pale Or and a bordure argent. Third, is an augmentation allowed to include a coronet if the submitter is otherwise permitted to display a coronet on their armory? (Victoria is entitled to display a coronet. She is a viscountess, awarded 4/12/1980.) This was item 24 on the Atenveldt letter of June 25, 2010. |
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